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Post by Loz on Aug 29, 2005 10:35:35 GMT 10
Ok i've been watching me some Angel of late and thought i'd get some other people's opinions......
For Angel Season's 1 - 5 list your:
Best Episode?
Worst Episode?
Favourite Lead Character?
Favourite Supporting/Guest Character?
Worst Lead Character?
Worst Supporting/Guest Character?
Best 'Coupling'?
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Post by Shaun on Aug 29, 2005 10:47:04 GMT 10
Best Episode?
Season 1 - Five by Five
Season 2 - Reprise
Season 3 - Lullaby
Season 4 - Apocolypse, Nowish
Season 5 - You're Welcome
Worst Episode?
Season 1 - She
Season 2 - Shroud of Rahmon
Season 3 - That old Gang of Mine
Season 4 - House Always Wins
Season 5 - Just one? Just Rewards
Favourite Lead Character?
Cordelia and Wesley
Favourite Supporting/Guest Character?
Lilah 1-4
Worst Lead Character?
Spike in season 5
Worst Supporting/Guest Character?
Eve
Best 'Coupling'?
Wesley and Lilah
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Post by Loz on Aug 29, 2005 11:01:54 GMT 10
Figured i better add mine....
Best Episode?
Season 1 - I Will Remember You/ Five by Five
Season 2 - Reprise/Epiphany
Season 3 - Loyalty/ Lullaby
Season 4 - Apocolypse, Nowish/ Orpheus
Season 5 - Smile Time / You're Welcome
Worst Episode?
Season 1 - She
Season 2 - Happy Anniversary
Season 3 - That Old Gang of Mine
Season 4 - Slouching Towards Bethlehem
Season 5 - The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco
Favourite Lead Character?
Angel and Wes
Favourite Supporting/Guest Character?
Lindsey / Lorne
Worst Lead Character?
Cordelia some of Season 3 ('I love Angel') and all of Season 4. Redeemed herself in You're Welcome
Worst Supporting/Guest Character?
EVE!
Best 'Coupling'?
Angel and Buffy for that one glorious episode. Wes and Lilah otherwise
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Post by Shaun on Aug 29, 2005 11:05:14 GMT 10
Cordelia was great in season 4! You hated evil Cordy? How? I loved her in that season , its what got me interested in the show. You're one of those Conner haters aren't you?  |
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Post by Loz on Aug 29, 2005 11:18:38 GMT 10
Cordelia s**t me big time from when she got all high and mighty in Season 3. And when she came back in S4 she was just annoying the crap out of me, and thats before it turned out she was evil and possessed.
And no i'm actually not one of those Conner haters. I was but i've been turned around and as i've been watching Season 4 again i've realised that i now have a lot of sympathy for the character.
But i really, really hate the fact that Cordy and Conner got it on. Not because i believe Cordelia was meant to be with Angel but because it was simply gross. Very gross actually. And yet Apocolypse, Nowish is one of my favourite Angel episodes of all..... weird
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Post by Shaun on Aug 29, 2005 11:23:41 GMT 10
Its no more gross than Buffy having sex with two dead guys.
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Post by Loz on Aug 29, 2005 11:35:25 GMT 10
Of course it is! Like 4 months before she had been changing his nappies! Gross, gross, gross.....
And as Buffy herself says, "...they were hotties"
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Post by Shaun on Aug 29, 2005 11:37:04 GMT 10
So being good looking makes it fine to sleep with a corpse? It wasn't even Cordelia, it was Jasmine who slept with Conner. So she hadn't technically changed any of his nappies. And he wasn't a kid anymore.
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Post by Loz on Aug 29, 2005 11:51:01 GMT 10
Well we're in a narky little mood today aren't we.....
They are not corpse's. They move, they think, they feel.... they can breath if they want to and most importantly they can, well, perform. So i have no problem at all with Buffy screwing two vampires - i would have if i was her (and in the case of Spike a lot damn sooner than she did)
And i will conceed that it wasn't Cordelia driving but it was still her body and it was her body and Conner's with the whole pelvis thrusting under that bloody blue sheet that was gross, gross, gross
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Post by Shaun on Aug 29, 2005 11:55:54 GMT 10
The were still dead. They were walking corpses. At least Conner and Cordy were both alive. And I never found it gross. I will grant you that I saw season 4 before I ever saw season 3 with Conner as a baby, so that might be why I see if differently.
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Post by Loz on Aug 29, 2005 12:11:22 GMT 10
Who cares if they were still dead? You trying to tell me that Spike wasn't the best Buffy ever had or will ever have? What with the not needing to breath, the stamina, the cold.... come on! Yes Conner and Cordy were both alive but that doesn't improve it in my mind sorry. Maybe the fact that you never saw Conner as a baby before the icky pelvis thrusting of Apocolypse, Nowish did cause you to see it differently. I bet most people agree with me  |
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Post by Shaun on Aug 29, 2005 12:15:58 GMT 10
Spike probably was the best sex Buffy ever had. It doesn't make him any less dead, or it any less necrophilia Icky pelivis thrusting? You only think its icky because you can't get past the fact that conner was only a baby in season 3. |
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Post by Loz on Aug 29, 2005 12:25:43 GMT 10
No actually i'd still think it was icky if it wasn't those characters. Vincent does NOTHING for me and that whole scene just looks awkward and i'll say it again icky. Its just not sexy at all. Spike - I don't care if he's technically dead! He's moving. He's hot. He's talented. He's kind of good. He kinda saved the world. I'm a simple girl Shaun - thats enough for me.  |
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Post by Shaun on Aug 29, 2005 12:27:29 GMT 10
So basically it does not matter what you are or do, as long as you are good looking? Of course |
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Post by Loz on Aug 29, 2005 12:38:49 GMT 10
Oh piss off! I'm just saying you put me in Buffy's shoes and its plainly obvious what i would have done.
Lindsey had a thing for Darla - it didn't bother him that she was dead and she didn't even have a chip or a soul. Put yourself in Lindsey's shoes- you saying you'd say no if Darla offered it up?
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Post by Shaun on Aug 29, 2005 12:47:23 GMT 10
Lindsey is evil. I don't think I am evil. But of course I wouldn't say no I am just saying I don't find Cordy and COnner any more gross than I find Buffy sleeping with vampires. |
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Post by Loz on Aug 29, 2005 12:56:23 GMT 10
Well i do. Conner = no way, never Spike/Angel = Hell yes (separately or together ) Simple as that.... What's your opinion of Wes and Fred? They are both very much human and yet a lot of people find them incredibly icky |
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Post by Shaun on Aug 29, 2005 12:59:09 GMT 10
Fred and Wesley never had sex did they? Its been awhile since I forced myself to watch the mess that is season 5. I wanted them to hook up in season 3 before she got with Gunn. So no, I never found them icky. But I prefer Wesley with Lilah. Lilah is hot |
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Post by Loz on Aug 29, 2005 13:11:30 GMT 10
Yeah i don't find them icky either. I don't know what that's all about. I didn't want her to hook up with Wes straight away - i think it was better that she was with Gunn for awhile. I did hate how they did the Fred + Wes thing in S5 though - it was so rushed. Fred all of a sudden just started looking at Wes and basically drooling. It was weird. And Lilah is hot - and a bloody awesome character. I try to channel her sometimes... Not the evil part obviously but the cold hard bitch part |
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Post by Beck on Aug 29, 2005 14:39:14 GMT 10
Best Episode?
Season 1 - Hero
Season 2 - Reprise
Season 3 - Birthday
Season 4 - Orpheus
Season 5 - Smile Time
Worst Episode?
Season 1 - Expecting
Season 2 - Disharmony
Season 3 - That old Gang of Mine
Season 4 - The House Always Wins
Season 5 - Harm's Way
Favourite Lead Character?
Wes
Favourite Supporting/Guest Character?
Darla
Worst Lead Character?
Conner
Worst Supporting/Guest Character?
Eve
Best 'Coupling'?
Darla and Angel
And for the record, Conner and Cordy were ick. Major ick.
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