Revenge

[Nico]

Okay, so none of you are watching but I hope you all give it a chance at some point!.

I like this show, it is different from the Normal. All about revenge, not the crappy 'You learned your lesson so I won't commit to my plan' type but the down & dirty type.

Each episode focuses on a different person, Emily is following a box of her fathers belongings looking to take revenge on the people who helped have him falsely accused/sentenced and her taken from him . It is quite interesting.

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I've seen the first episode and I liked it a lot! Haven't seen any eps since then as I've got too many shows to watch.

Hopefully, they'll show it on TV soon. If not, I might have to go into my uni and abuse their internet a little.

Btw, the show is not all about revenge. Apparently, according to the writers/creators, the first 13 eps is on Emily getting her revenge while the second half is about the murder trail.

[Nico]

That's good to know Irene. It will make a nice change of pace from how the first episode ended & began (with the following episodes going back in time) I am looking forward to seeing further on!

[shred]

Yeah, I'm glad about it too. It would be such a common thing to do if they don't touch on the murder or have the whole season lead up to the murder until the season finale and then touch on it in the next season. If they do that, the whole revenge formula would get old. This way, it would definitely spice things up on the show.

Here's hoping it would get picked up though!

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And the show got a full season pickup. Not surprise though as it's one of ABC's new hit show.

[Nico]

I'm glad. Last night's episode was another great one. The lead actress plays the part so well and it is always nice to see strong female leads on tv.

[shred]

Caught up with all 5 eps!

I'm loving Nolan. But I think he'll get into trouble for witnessing Lydia's murder. I won't be surprise if he becomes a suspect since he was there, leaving his fingerprints all over the place! When he looked over the balcony, I was yelling at him not to do that. I wouldn't be surprise if someone saw him!

I'm liking Daniel a lot too. He has such a gorgeous smile. So sad he gets murdered though. He seems like the most innocent party in this whole thing so it's a shame that he got caught up in it. I don't think Emily's plan was to kill him as I remember her looking quite shock when she heard he got killed. I think one of her plans got backfired and he got caught in the middle of the crossfire (so to speak). As of now, there's no reason to screw with him besides to get back with Victoria.

Oh and I do NOT like Tyler. What the f**K is he up to?

And this Amanda chick is seriously screwed up though.

[Nico]

I thought Nolan was going to get caught in there! He will definitely become a suspect.

Like she said in the last episode her intention was never to cause someones death, it was revenge but she wasn't a murderer so I will be interested to see what plan had gone wrong that causes Daniels death.

I think Tyler has a thing for Daniel, I think I saw something in the promo but I could have been wrong it was so fast.

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Oh yeah, I saw that promo and maybe you're right.

My theory is that he is jealous of Daniel's life and wants it for himself. Whatever it is, he could be involved with Daniel's murder.

[Nico]

I am wondering what the situation is between him & the mother, they never knew each other right? but he is always spying on her with that dodgy look of his. He clearly disliked Emily from the get go.

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Tyler's definitely up to no good. I suspect he has something to do with Daniel's death. Whatever his motivations, he's clearly not against manipulating Daniel, Daniel's family, and Daniel's friends to have his own way. I'm curious to see what it is he actually wants, but he clearly isn't a friend.

I'm waiting for...gosh, I can't remember his name...the guy who owns the bar to figure out who Emily really is.

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Jack?

I feel sad for him but it's kinda expected. Too early for Emily to reveal her feelings to him. I'm thinking maybe after Daniel's death, something more will happen between them.

Knew Nolan would get into trouble. I'm bothered by the fact that Frank is acting as if someone is framing him for Lydia's murder. When he told Victoria that someone is setting him up, I went, "No, they are not. You actually killed her!" If it were anybody else, I would have expected them to take the Greyson's money and run. So I don't understand why he would go after Emily.

Tyler is just plain creepy! Seriously! What the hell is he up to?!

Don't care much about Declan and that girl. I find Declan quite selfish.

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Yes, Jack. Thanks, Irene! I'm curious as to whether things will change between him and Emily after Daniel's death, too. Of course, if he finds out sooner there may be some backlash even before we catch up to the murder.

I don't mind Declan so much. I think he and Daniel's sister are more background characters to flesh out some of the other characters' stories than main characters themselves, so I haven't really given them much thought. I think for all the problems Declan may have, he's better than some of the guys she could be ending up with. We'll see.

Frank bothers me on so many levels. Obviously, he's sticking around because of Victoria and whatever weird attraction they have. I don't think his original intention has ever been to go after Emily. Things have simply pushed him in that direction. Obviously, he's not right in saying he's being set up. However, that's the story he's choosing to go with and so it makes sense that he would have tracked the security footage and see who else had entered the building/Lydia's apartment. I think he's set several things in motion himself, apart from anything Emily's had a hand in, that we may not have seen yet and he is clearly not afraid to commit murder if he thinks it will help him achieve what he's set out to do, so I'm curious to see what his motive behind all this is. I can't imagine it just comes down to the love of a woman. Emily's certainly met her match!

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Some stuff on Daniel's killer and Tyler. Nothing spoilery - just that the writers have pushed back revealing Daniel's killer to later in the season.

One of the hardest things about watching ABC’s Revenge is knowing that Daniel Grayson is going to die. That’s not a spoiler. Anyone who’s seen the pilot episode knows how Daniel’s story ends. Still, despite knowing that Daniel will die, it’s hard not to form an attachment to him as a character. As we watch each episode of Season 1, the question of "Who will kill Daniel" likely lingers in the back of our minds. We were apparently supposed to get the answer to that question during the series’ thirteenth episode, but now it appears they’re pushing the big reveal back


Entertainment Weekly got the inside scoop on the situation, thanks to a recent chat they had with series creator Mike Kelley. Originally, they were going to reveal Daniel’s killer during Episode 13, however they’ve shifted things around since the series received a full season order, and are now set stage the reveal during the series’ fifteenth episode.

That’s the vague interpretation of the news. The rest of this article contains some spoilery bits about future episodes, including tonight’s.

From what Kelley told EW, it sounds like they’re pushing off the big reveal for how Daniel was killed because they need a bit more time to flesh out the story before we learn who killed Victoria and Conrad’s son. EW says the “extra story” has to do with Ashton Holmes character Tyler, who’s proving to be kind of a wrench in Emily’s plans. Apparently, Tyler’s arc only gets bigger and in order for them to see his story play out, they need more episodes. Does that mean Tyler’s the killer? He’s been at the top of my list since last week, or near it anyway, as I’m convinced he’s in love with Daniel (and/or broke).

Here’s what Kelley said about Tyler...

He’s inspired by Matt Damon in The Talented Mr. Ripley. We just love the idea that this guy really wants to become Daniel. He wants to be this guy. He will do what it takes. Obviously, there are some issues here. He gets more and more dangerous. The more and more he become marginalized by Daniel’s relationship with Emily, coupled with his inability to really crack into the Grayson empire on Conrad’s side, causes him to generate some pretty shocking story down the road.

First of all, on the Ripley thing: called it! However, with all this talk about Tyler, now I’m starting to have my doubts that he’s the killer. He seems too obvious, though he might still be involved.

Kelley also says there’s a big story coming up between Ashley, Tyler and Nolan. One of the clips we posted yesterday might offer more of a clue as to how Nolan gets involved with Tyler.

Going back to the whole issue with Daniel, I sort of wish they’d make him less likable. It’s going to be difficult to “let him go” once his murder actually happens. But the fact that he will die is one of the brilliant things about this series. The writers took away the chance to surprise/devastate fans with his death in revealing it to us from the beginning. It sort of makes this first half of the season one big tease, but on the other hand, knowing what's coming makes the series that much more intriguing. Hopefully the big whodunnit-twist is worth the build-up!

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To add to what Irene posted...

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According to TVGuide.com the show is looking for someone to play Conrad's expensive attorney. They pointed the speculation to "could Conrad have killed his own son?" Of course, with the way things are between him and Victoria, it may just be a divorce settlement. I'll let you draw your own conclusions...

Tonight's ep was...eek! (The good, fan-girl kind of eek!)

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That moment between Jack and Emily when she gave him the compass...Her being with Daniel is breaking my heart.

I wasn't thinking that Tyler was a conman in quite the way that Nolan revealed him to be. If all he's trying to do is get into the good graces of the Greysons so that he can get a good job and try to earn back his family's fortune, then why is he pitting himself against Daniel and Emily? Tyler and Nolan was a bit of a surprise. I always thought Nolan had a thing for Emily in his own way. Not in a "I want to be your boyfriend" kind of way, but few people would have done as much for Emily as he has just because of a promise to her father. It will be interesting to see how he plans to use this "relationship" with Tyler, and/or the tape, against Ty.

Lydia regaining consciousness can't be good for Emily. I wonder how she'll work with that. Clearly she hasn't wanted anyone to die--according to the previews for next week she tells the original Emily "you didn't have to kill him" when talking about Frank--but you've got to wonder how many creative options are left her, especially since Lydia knows (at least part of) the truth.

Also form the promos is the original Emily moving in. I can't see that going well--and I didn't need the Hamptons PD showing up in the promos to figure that out!

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I haven't seen the last two eps yet so not touching your second spoiler, Marie!

[Nico]

Knowing that Daniel is going to die breaks your heart because he is just a victim caught in the crossfire (I assume) .

Marie:

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I always thought Ty just wanted Daniel to himself it was clear he had a 'thing' for him. I think Tyler has ulterior motives there is no way he would tell Nolan his plan so easily.

I was beginning to wonder if Emily was falling for Daniel, but that last scene where she was kissing him on the swing her hand was gripping the porch swing, like it was taking all of her effort to not pull away.

I can't remember, how does Lydia know Conrad? was she the one he had the affair with? .

Conrads words to Victoria in the flashback "We would have lost it all, the house, Daniel" did have me wondering what that meant. Not mentioning the daughter says that something suspicious is going on.

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Just realised that I only missed on episode.

And I found out that Josh Bowman - the guy who plays Daniel - is English!!

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Nico:

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Tyler may want Daniel for himself. I'm not sure. I certainly think there's more between what happened between Ty and Nolan than we saw last week, so it will probably come back in a future episode. If all Tyler wanted was Daniel, then I don't think he'd be going after Emily's friend (the party planner, sorry I can't remember her name right now) quite as forcefully as he has. His being with her hasn't made Daniel jealous or brought them closer together or anything like that. I guess we'll have to wait and see on this one.

I've always thought Emily being with Daniel was simply part of her plan to have access to his parents. Although, of course, knowing that he is found dead during their engagement party you would think that she comes to truly love him. I don't see what part of her revenge plan could include marriage. However, I thought her gripping the porch swing was more of a caress because she was thinking about Jack and would have rather been with him at that moment but needed Daniel to stick around so she said what she thought he needed/wanted to hear. But, then, like I said earlier...engagement party. So, all I know is that I'd really rather her be with Jack and I wonder if/how Jack finds out who she really is.

Yes, Lydia was the one having the affair with Conrad.

I'm not remembering that flashback. How far into the show was it, maybe I'll rewatch that part online.

[Nico]

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Ashley. Good point, I figured he was wanting to get between Daniel/Emily and his best chance of getting close to them was dating Emily's best friend but they really don't hang out that often so that seems an unlikely reason, he is obviously using her but for what? do you think he is after Emily as well?

Thats why I was confused about the swing, I thought she was thinking of Jack as well but then it seemed like she was thinking of Jack to stop thinking about what was going on, the only reason I wondered if she was falling for Daniel was someone (I think Nolan) mentioned it. I like EMily & Nolan's friendship and hope we see more of it she needs a friend and Nolan is very supportive of her, for whatever reason I hope they don't push it further than friendship or try to destroy it!

I can't remember Marie, it was before she kicked him out that is all I remember I can't even remember what triggered the flashback but it sounded as if Daniel was an important part of framing Emily's dad. I am pretty sure Emily mentioned that Daniel wasn't a part of her plan though (getting revenge on HIM) but he is a part of her overall plan because he gets her close to the Greysons. Is that correct? I might have some of the facts mixed up.