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Post by Lexie on Feb 9, 2007 2:10:19 GMT 10
So, why could The First touch Angel? It's stressed over and over that The First is incorporeal, yet it could touch Angel. Why?
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Post by Glenn on Feb 9, 2007 2:48:05 GMT 10
Simple answer would be that when The First was introduced they didnt really know what it was and what it could do. Joss will have remembered that he had this villain he could bring back and thought about a new spin for a bad guy and came up with the non corporeal thing later.
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Post by Amber on Feb 9, 2007 4:38:51 GMT 10
Actually, it doesn't touch Angel. It puts its hand near his cheek but its hand doesn't actually make contact.
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Post by Allan on Feb 9, 2007 9:09:13 GMT 10
Yeah, I remember Joss mentioning that in an interview, because people had misconstrued it.
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Post by Glenn on Feb 9, 2007 9:12:02 GMT 10
I think i remember a scene where the first brushed someones hair with its fingers once. Not sure now, but ive heard others mention similar things.
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Post by Allan on Feb 9, 2007 9:14:10 GMT 10
I'll have to check it out again. Joss's comment could have been just to cover his tracks and deny a continuity error.
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Post by Nico on Feb 9, 2007 18:25:13 GMT 10
I also cant remember the first touching angel, but I will go rewatch and see if i see anything, curious now  |
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Post by Lexie on Feb 10, 2007 4:19:20 GMT 10
Maybe I will have to look more closely, but it looked like it touched him. The time where Angel had his head in his hands at the mansion The First seems to touch his hands. And it also guides him to the table before the dream sequence...there might have been a couple other times as well.
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Post by Laura on Feb 19, 2007 12:27:48 GMT 10
Well, the First also sat on a barrel in the vineyard in season 7. I thought was odd, considering Spike went through everything when he was incorporeal.
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Post by Glenn on Mar 14, 2007 21:59:46 GMT 10
I know where it was that i saw the first brush someones hair with its fingers now. It was season 7 Episode 1 "Lessons". Spike is slightly crazy in the basement and the first is changing into everyone. When it becomes Drusilla it moves Spike's hair with her fingers. Bad, Juliet, bad  |
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Post by Allan on Mar 14, 2007 22:37:49 GMT 10
You can just chalk it up to Spike's insane disorientation then! The Jossverse is above continuity errors, I tell you! |
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Post by Laura on Mar 25, 2007 11:11:46 GMT 10
Lol, I agree with Allan! No errors in Jossverse! Perhaps the First was able to graze skin with its fingers. Or maybe it wasn't even touching them. Maybe it was just touching where their skin was, but it was actually going through...well, I don't know if that makes sense, but I tried . |
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Post by Nico on Mar 25, 2007 13:16:32 GMT 10
Has anyone rewatched the episode?, I will watch it later and zoom in , but yeah its probably an error,
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Post by Allan on Mar 25, 2007 22:53:35 GMT 10
I've been meaning to rewatch it... I just need to remember when I have a spare 42 minutes.
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