Angel doesn't work...

[Brittany Bear]

Why is there so much worse things in LA when Sunnydale is supposed to be the root of the evil? I mean it seemed as though Angel's battles were more tough and evil. But, shouldn't the hellmouth have the most evil here? Is this a flaw or is this just me being dumb? I don't know. What do you think?

[Beck]

I don't think the evils Angel faced in Ats were any tougher than the ones Buffy faced in Sunnydale. The only villian I can think of from Ats that would match villians such as Glory, The Mayor or Caleb is Jasmine and Hamilton. And Jasmine was a PTB so thats why she was so difficult, the same as why Glory was so hard - she was a God. The demons on Ats weren't interested in opening the hellmouth, nor did they want to end the world. Jasmine wanted world peace, to do that she did a lot of terrible things, but she never wanted to end the world. The Senior Partners did, but in their own way at their own time, so the Hellmouth wasn't necessary for their plans. And the other Big Bads on Ats weren't as tough as the ones Buffy faced. Look at Caleb, he was just as hard to kill as Jasmine and Hamilton were. The Mayor was indestructable up until his ascension and could have caused even more trouble than he did had he wanted to. Same with Glory.

[Brittany Bear]

I see what you mean Beck. Also i havn't seen very much of Angel so I don't know a lot. But, I've heard people talking about it and it got me thinking. Thats all

[Beck]

Well there is also the fact that LA is a lot bigger, and a lot of smarter and just as evil demons would choose to stay away from the Slayer. Sunnydale was also run by the Mayor for a long time, its possible he kept out anyone he saw that would get in his way for his plans to ascend. Sunnydale is a small town, not a lot there for some demons if they don't have hellmouth plans. Of course it attracts a lot of demons, but a lot wouldn't want to deal with a Slayer all the time either. Look at Angelus in his heyday - even he stayed as far from the Slayer as he could.

[buffymanic]

yeh I'd agree that the Mayor had an element of control over the town as far as what deamons got up to, because in Lovers Walk we found out that he knew all about Spike and wanted to have him eliminated because he could have disrupted his accention. Also after the Mayor came the initiative so the word would have got out about them which whould drive demons away

[Allan]

Wasn't there a reference to LA being fairly close to Sunnydale, so demons cross through their fairly regularly (or am I imagining it)?

[jeanvic]

I think LA was worse in the sense that evil isn't clear cut. It is more insidious, clever and much more about the long term and not the quick wam bam end of the world. In La it was more about the hurting and the slow burn, just like Angelus. He wasn't about the quick fix or deastroying the world but he was the most evil son of a bitch the world had ever seen.

Plus, Sunnydale was just a font of evil. Evil was drawn there by the mystical properties of the hellmouth but LA was the crown jewel of the Senior Partner's work on earth. The LA branch was the biggest branch in the world and the powerholders on earth conducted through LA. That is what I think anyway.

[Deleted]

I think having a branch of W&H there is certainly a part of it. L.A. is a lot bigger than Sunnydale, though, and has a much more vibrant nightlife. I think it would be easier for demons to cloak their true selves in a city like L.A. than a place like Sunnydale. I also like the argument that the Mayor would have screened which demons he let stay in Sunnydale when he was alive, since his whole existence was for the Ascension.