Post by Kana on Mar 30, 2007 21:21:40 GMT 10
This isn't a morality tale or an attempt to scorn the good intentions of any characters nor to glorify the malintent of others. No! This is one of my many random observations.
"My whole life's been built on (lies)" Conner Peace Out
What's interesting is that Conner has been deceived by his parents in one way or another.
Benediction
Now one thing to note is that neither Holtz nor Angel lie with words in this episode yet both of them deceive Conner. Doesn't tell him any lies, he just sends off to be distracted while he confronts the man he thinks of as his father. I don't believe Holtz lies in his letter. He knows he cannot keep Conner from Angel forever and he realises the connection their share and he does love his son but doesn't want to give him up without a fight and this is only way he carry on his legacy of vengeance. This, and to hope that after his death, Conner would remain more loyal to him than if he were to stay alive. Holtz could not live to see Conner embrace Angel, he knows he wouldn't let that happen when he was alive.
Home
Angel lies to save his son here. Now like I've said in another forum, Angel does something similar here to Jasmine. Jasmine deceives and attempts to save mankind with her lie. Conner ends up rejecting that lie and states that one cannot be saved by a lie. This echos what Angel says to Jasmine yet he does the exact same thing to Conner.
Conner's mothers
It is actually Conner's female parents that mostly advocate honesty. Darla is fully honest with Conner in Inside Out and is a lot more open about the things she's done in the past. Angel's is also honest about his dark past but is a lot more reluctant to show Conner. Cordy also urges Angel not to deceive Conner in Benediction.
Saved by the Lie
"Lies are necessary to life" Nietzsche
After Conner gains knowledge of the truth, he understands the need for the deception. Wes understands this all too well and embraces the lies as a focal point to endure existence. The truth (if such truths can ever be known) is love and that is what Angel and the other parents offer Conner. Unlike Holtz, his lies are of noble intent whether misguided or not.
"My whole life's been built on (lies)" Conner Peace Out
What's interesting is that Conner has been deceived by his parents in one way or another.
Benediction
Now one thing to note is that neither Holtz nor Angel lie with words in this episode yet both of them deceive Conner. Doesn't tell him any lies, he just sends off to be distracted while he confronts the man he thinks of as his father. I don't believe Holtz lies in his letter. He knows he cannot keep Conner from Angel forever and he realises the connection their share and he does love his son but doesn't want to give him up without a fight and this is only way he carry on his legacy of vengeance. This, and to hope that after his death, Conner would remain more loyal to him than if he were to stay alive. Holtz could not live to see Conner embrace Angel, he knows he wouldn't let that happen when he was alive.
Home
Angel lies to save his son here. Now like I've said in another forum, Angel does something similar here to Jasmine. Jasmine deceives and attempts to save mankind with her lie. Conner ends up rejecting that lie and states that one cannot be saved by a lie. This echos what Angel says to Jasmine yet he does the exact same thing to Conner.
Conner's mothers
It is actually Conner's female parents that mostly advocate honesty. Darla is fully honest with Conner in Inside Out and is a lot more open about the things she's done in the past. Angel's is also honest about his dark past but is a lot more reluctant to show Conner. Cordy also urges Angel not to deceive Conner in Benediction.
Saved by the Lie
"Lies are necessary to life" Nietzsche
After Conner gains knowledge of the truth, he understands the need for the deception. Wes understands this all too well and embraces the lies as a focal point to endure existence. The truth (if such truths can ever be known) is love and that is what Angel and the other parents offer Conner. Unlike Holtz, his lies are of noble intent whether misguided or not.
and is thus moved) but I'm not sure what the discussion point is? 