Angel Season 5

[Beck]

I don't think Eve did anything nicely I hated her, she was bad bad bad. Hamilton made the end fight harder, but he could have been on longer and still worked :dunno:

[RebeccaR]

I was a bit annoyed at how it ended. it was just left hanging, but I do get it. Like I said in another thread, ending like that showed that "the fight between good and evil will never end", but I would have liked to see more of Ilyria (AA played it so well seeing how different Ilyria was to Fred). I loved her contempt of the human race but she was just starting to show some emotion (when Wes died and she offered to lie to him) but then later with Gunn (you won't last 10 minutes)

Eve was annoying, she was supposed to work for the senior partners but she couldn't pull off evil or sexy or manipulative, nothing like Lilah.

And I felt so sorry for Lorne, being around Angel screwed up his own balance, so that last episode where he killed Lindsay was so sad. And is it just me, or did Lorne look a lot greener than when they first me him??

[Deleted]

I wasn't too bothered with the finale. If you wrap everything up you're putting an official end to it (not to mention that fans who weren't happy with parts of the wrap up would be left feeling irate!). While I never held out hope for a continuation (at least on screen) of the Buffy/Angel verses (although I wouldn't necessarily turn one down), the world keeps going anyway, even if we're not able to see it. Like you said, Bec, the fight goes on. While Angel's finale did leave me a bit more depressed than Buffy's (after all, Buffy did at least win her fight), I thought it was rather fitting for the show.

Eve was very forgettable for me. I feel she was put there to fill a position and nothing more.

I certainly grew to appreciate Illyria's character--especially close to the end. She was something of a glimmer of hope in that otherwise dark finale.

I never quite understood Lorne in Season 5. It felt like he'd overstayed his welcome. I haven't watched Season 5 in a very long time, so I'm not sure if it was because of Lorne's character alone or because of all the other character changes that happened that season that some of those changes and developments felt more contrived than in previous seasons.

[Shaun]

What did you not understand about Lorne? He had his purpose there, he just wasn't in it enough or used well. They gave a lot of screen time to smaller characters and pretty much forgot about giving Lorne any story or depth in the season.

[shred]

One thing I hate about season 5 was how much they neglected Lorne. He became such a different character in the finale - from a demon who hated violence to someone who was able to shoot someone point blank. How did he became that person?

Lorne has a small arc going for him during the season and no one noticed it because not much attention was paid to him. We see glimpses of him hardening and slowly becoming the demon in the finale but it's not enough in my opinion.

Maybe that's the plan from the writers all along. Who knows. If it was, I don't think it came off well enough for my liking.

[Shaun]

Lorne didn't want to kill Lindsay, he decided to go his own way after that because of what Angel asked him to do. He knew that it needed to be done, he had heard Lindsay sing, but he wasn't happy about doing it. He hardened a little because he had to, but I think Lorne was essentially the same demon he always was and he wanted to get away from the violence he had become a part of.

[shred]

Nah see, I disagree with that. If he didn't want to kill Lindsey, he wouldn't have. He would have gotten out of it in my opinion.

[Shaun]

He killed Lindsay because he knew it needed to be done, and he knew what was at stake for the others in the final fight. I don't think that means he wanted to.

[Bre]

Yeah I agree with Shaun here. It was pretty obvious the way Lorne acted that he did not want to kill Lindsey, but had to. I think it was in perfect character, it just wasn't something we'd seen before from Lorne because he was never asked to do that before. If he wanted to kill Lindsey, he wouldn't have gone his own way after that.

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Aug 21, 2010 9:09:44 GMT 10 Shaun said:

What did you not understand about Lorne? He had his purpose there, he just wasn't in it enough or used well. They gave a lot of screen time to smaller characters and pretty much forgot about giving Lorne any story or depth in the season.

I guess it wasn't so much his character that I didn't understand, but why he was kept around if he was going to be written like that. I felt that way about most of the characters that season, but I felt Lorne could have had a chance to shine and was demoted from supporting character to filler. What they did give him in terms of story I understood, but if they kept him around just for that small bit, why have him at all?

[Beck]

Lorne was an important part of the group but I totally agree they should have had him in it more. The only useful things he did in the season was read all the employee's and handle the entertainment section of W&H.

[shred]

I hate that he turned into Hulk in Life of the Party. I thought it was pretty stupid.