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Post by Casi on Aug 5, 2006 10:31:10 GMT 10
You'd be surprised. I can't remember (I think it was book five) but someone got ahold of an early copy. The newstands or something that got the boxes early...or maybe it was amazon.com...one of those places. At any rate, a girl took the book a few days before it was released and transcribed the entire thing onto the web.
And then, right here in my town, a woman came on the radio the day that book six hit stores and said Dumbledore died. It was insane. Lawsuits EVERYWHERE.
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Post by Bre on Aug 5, 2006 11:06:25 GMT 10
Lawsuits? That's a little extreme. I didn't catch any spoilers in the last book. I was so sure I was going to be spoiled, so I barely went online and stayed clear of anything about HP.
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Post by Lizzie on Aug 5, 2006 16:47:00 GMT 10
Urgh, what a bitch. I heard about people driving down the road yelling it out of car doors...
So, Jo has released some info on the Dumbledore dead/alive thing. I'm not suprised.
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Post by Casi on Aug 5, 2006 17:48:58 GMT 10
It cracks me up when she has to do stuff like that actually. I think it was somewhere after book four that she had to come out publicly and state the sexual orientation of every last one of her characters. The bottom line, none of them are gay.
But fans of HP are just...insane, is what I've decided. I mean, have you ever tried to talk to a hardcore Harry/Hermione shipper? PARTICULARLY after book six? I mean...man...I'd say it's like talking to a brick wall...but that's insulting brick walls everywhere.
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Post by Beck on Aug 5, 2006 17:53:17 GMT 10
What is the info on Dumbledore?
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Post by Casi on Aug 5, 2006 18:28:57 GMT 10
Well we've been told that we will be given an answer on why some Wizards become ghosts while others do not. We think it's going to apply to him.
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Post by Casi on Aug 15, 2006 8:34:54 GMT 10
REVIVE!! I want to talk about how sad Merope's story is. I've been meaning to write a fic for forever going over her story and her love of Tom Riddle Sr. and all that. I'm just so scared of the Harry Potter fans  They're scary sometimes! |
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Post by Glenn on Aug 15, 2006 8:36:14 GMT 10
Yes if you do one thing wrong in the fic then thats it they will find you and hurt you. I do have some pity for her, but she did abuse her magic. Though if i was in that situation i may go the same way
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Post by Casi on Aug 15, 2006 8:40:29 GMT 10
Well also I don't think she was ever really taught the difference between right and wrong. She was just taught that she is horrible and hated. I think that, in bewitching Tom Riddle Sr....it was as much about the fact that she was infatuated with him as it was about escaping her family and her circumstances. I think she was just that desperate.
What makes me really sad is that she could fool herself into thinking that he really loved her and that it wasn't the love potion or spell she had on him making him stay with her. I can't imagine how much it must have hurt her when he left. She deserved it a little bit. He never deserved to be, basically, kidnapped in such a way. But still....the poor girl.
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Post by Paul on Aug 15, 2006 8:45:51 GMT 10
i have no sympathy for her, she used a love potion. in the real world that would be date rape. she drugged him, simple as
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Post by Bre on Aug 15, 2006 8:48:35 GMT 10
Ooh you should right a fic about her story. I'd read it. I did want to know more about it while reading the book.
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Post by Glenn on Aug 15, 2006 8:50:05 GMT 10
Im wonder if we will learn more in the 7th
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Post by Casi on Aug 15, 2006 8:50:15 GMT 10
Well yes, but take into account that she really wasn't stable mentally. I mean, years of inbreeding have probably led to some very serious brain issues along with her obvious physical deformities. I'm kind of amazed that she was able to make the potion at all. So, she's mentally distrubed, has a rather dangerous obsession with a boy, has an abusive family, I can understand why she did it. No that doesnt' make it right, but I can sympathize.
I just wish someone like Dumbledore could have come along to help her. She really could have used someone like that. I think the whole course of history would have been so very different if she'd just had someone to talk to.
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Post by Beck on Aug 15, 2006 8:52:13 GMT 10
I actually agree with Paul. She enslaved him with magick, and kept him prisoner. Mentally unstable or not, she abused the man for years before releasing him from the spell.
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Post by Paul on Aug 15, 2006 8:55:05 GMT 10
i still have no sympathy for her,what she did was wrong, she's a rapist, if a man did it there would be an uproar, mentally unstable or not
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Post by Casi on Aug 15, 2006 9:05:56 GMT 10
Yeah, I'm not saying what she did wasn't wrong. It was horribly, terribly, crazily wrong. But I don't think she can be specifically blamed for it.
I mean...she was still basically a child when this happened. She was what? Fifteen? And never raised to be any kind of strong or independent person. She'd never been taught right from wrong. She'd had it beaten into her, literally and figuratively, that she was horrid, disgusting, ugly, useless, and unworthy of even the slightest bit of affection. She probably thought her only chance to ever have love in her life was to use magic.
It wasn't right, and Tom deserved better. Than all of. But she was a victem of her circumstances and I don't think she can be held responsible for all of it. Again, if she'd just had someone to talk to, I don't think any of it would have turned out the way it did.
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Post by Glenn on Aug 15, 2006 9:35:21 GMT 10
To be honest if someone doesnt know right from wrong then how can their actions be explained. Growing up in a house where Muggle KILLING was probably talked about regularly, using a love spell on one would mean nothing to her.
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Post by Casi on Aug 15, 2006 9:37:33 GMT 10
You make a good point. I do think, however, that she did have at least a shred of human decency left in her. I mean...after all was said and done, she did realize how wrong what she did was. I mean, she never used magic again, not even to save her life. And she didn't give her son to anyone in the wizarding world. No...she went to muggles. She could have found help but she chose to stay out of that world because of how much badness had happened to her because of it.
God, I just feel so sorry for her. It's like she was doomed from the day she was born.
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Post by Paul on Aug 15, 2006 10:08:51 GMT 10
i still have no sympathy for her but that aside it kinda furters the plot and explains why voldermort is the evil mother that he is, so i can see why she was wrote like that.
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Post by Casi on Aug 15, 2006 10:21:14 GMT 10
I personally was more afraid of Voldemort after book six than ever before because you learn so much about his childhood. I mean...if he was that demented as a child...is it any wonder he's the sadisctic sociopath that he is now?
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They're scary sometimes!
