Stargate SG-1 & Atlantis

[Nico]

Yeah I agree the way they treated Michael, they gave him EVERY reason to turn on them, I just love Michael though .

I cant wait for the 3rd Stargate movie to come out! I wonder what the storyline would be, they have allready covered the big bad, time travel so what next!?, I miss Sam and I to am hoping they finally hook up!. Also cant wait for the Atlantis movie, I am sure the Wraith will play a huge role in that!.

I'm not to impressed with the SGU concept art yet, Especially the control room i'm hoping they change it up a little, take a couple chairs out and its the control room of the Ori ships from SG1.

SGA Episode 13

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I enjoyed the storyline, I have seen it happen to Tealc on SG1 (you seen that episode yet Allan?) and watching this episode I took everything so personally , how dare they do this to the SGA team who yes, did awaken the Wraith but also dwindled there numbers Significantly and beat the Replicators, but they should have to answer for there crimes, atleast show they recognise they are partially to blame, indirectly or not. Woolsey back to what he does best!.

I didnt mind the clip show (although would have preferred for none at all this season!), Every season of SG1 and SGA have had a clipshow on the last episode or second last episode, I for one would rather it was episode 13, that means we get two full episodes at the end of the season.

[Allan]

I love Michael too, though Todd has to be my favourite Wraith, though. But I keep thinking a sitcom where they move into an apartment together on a wacky alien planet and have to live with each other - a la The Odd Couple - would be amusing. Maybe I should be put in charge of the Stargate franchise (and if we really need one set on a spaceship, do Stargate: Daedalus).

The third Stargate movie will be interesting. Did the first one wrap everything up? If so, I'm guessing the third will be another fun adventure like Continuum.

I didn't mind the concept art, but then again, I haven't come across the Ori yet.

And since they're after a name actor for the new leader, I would love to see Nathan Fillion get the role - especially if the character will be kind of a smart arse like O'Neill and Sheppard.

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The episode where it happened to Teal'c was a fairly early one, wasn't it? At least he was more willing to accept his fate then Sheppard!

I took it personally too, because I love the characters. But I was really pleased to see everything they're responsible for be addressed, because there were a couple of instances where their actions lead to quite a few deaths, and the ramifications were never addressed.

Not every season has a clipshow does it? I'm pretty sure I haven't seen one in every season of SG-1, and I thought Atlantis only had one in the first episode (and I'm never going to be able to look at "Letters from Pegasus" the same way again, after seeing David Nykl reenact his recording live on stage, with Paul McGillion standing next to him reenacting Atlantis rising - hilarious stuff! ). I would definitely prefer a clip show earlier in the season so the final episodes aren't interrupted (and, admittedly, when the framing device for the clips is as cool as Stargate usually does, it's not too concerning), but I kind of feel like I've been cheated out of an episode.

So, who are everyone's favourite characters in SG-1 and SGA?

[Nico]

Todd would kick Michaels arse! I would like to see them fight it out . I always love Todd/Shappard scenes, for some crazy reason he always asks for Sheppard and expects him to help .

Yeah the first one did , not to well in my opinion but I guess they ran out of ideas .

I would love to see Nathan Fillion get that role, I would watch it purely for him.

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I cant remember , I dont like clip show episodes so its possible I have been skipping some thinking that they are clip shows when they arent, I would have to look back over them.

I think its also a matter of the budget, looks at the special effects used on this season already, the entire episode looked low budget because it was , I remember listening to commentary and they said most of there budget is spent in the first half of the season I am expecting and Explosive finale so if this episode saved them a couple 100 thousand or more its worth it.

Have you seen the shots for the last episode of season 5 Allan? theres about 9 shots that were released/leaked whatever and I found them quite interesting, they dont give much away thankfully because I didnt find the pictures on purpose .

SG1- Vala (used to annoy the bejesus out of me!)
SGA- Lorne & Carson

[Allan]

I think Michael would definitely be the more conniving of the two, but I still think Todd would have a few tricks up his sleeve. He'd definitely be the more amusing of the two too. And as you mentioned about how he always expects Sheppard to help him, I can imagine him calling Sheppard to bail him out as Todd's about ready for the kill.

It's a shame that The Ark of Truth wasn't satisfying, Nico. I was thinking about the third movie, and you and Beck both mentioned that we never see the Furlings. Maybe it should be about them (ironically, I think they should be bald, with no fur whatsoever ).

I'm pretty sure clip shows are a money saving measure. While they do piss me off, if they make the "big" episodes worth it, it's cool in the long run.

I haven't seen those shots, but figure I should probably check for them.

And you really are a Lorne fan, aren't you? How much did his appearance add to the latest SGA episode for you?

[Allan]

So I was watching the season six finale ("Full Circle") tonight, and was wondering if anyone's watched the commentary, or can recall if the creators admitted to aping Star Wars at all.

We have Daniel Jackson in his robes against Anubis, in a showdown that looks incredibly similar to Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Vader, and Abydos gets destroyed by Anubis's a la Alderaan by the Death Star.

[Nico]

I love those Atlantis episodes where we see alot of Lorne, I think Sheppard is great to though I love his episodes even better when they are both together.

I absolutely HATE that scene, I have heard the commentary but cant remember if they mentioned the Star wars connection, although they did point out that they were very unhappy with that scene , they said it looked like Anubis 'whooshed' Daniel away, but infact he didnt, Anubis was cowering from Daniel .

The future episode pictures are quite neat, a few shots there that I have been waiting for all season!.

[Allan]

I didn't mind that scene, and got that Daniel was being pulled away, rather than it having anything to do with Anubis.

I watched "Fallen" and "Homecoming" tonight, and noticed that in "Fallen" they basically ripped off the X-Wing flight to take down the Death Star from Jedi, too! I was bitterly disappointed that we didn't get a Star Wars rip-off in "Homecoming" since it was part 3.

Where are the pics of the future episodes? Gateworld, or somewhere else?

[Beck]

Favourites hmm.

SGA - Carson, Sheppard and McKay. In that order. The girls of SGA I am fairly meh towards to be honest.
SG-1 - Jack. But I love all the others too

[Allan]

Re the girls, you haven't met Dr Keller yet, have you Beck? Agreed with the other girls, though - Teyla had potential, but was pretty much squandered.

[Nico]

I agree the SGA females arent all that great, also agree about Teyla they kind of ruined all of her potential I kind of miss season 1/2 Teyla epsecially in season 5. If it wasnt for Jewel Staite I think the writers would have a big problem on there hands.

Allan the link to the photos www.gateworld.net/gallery/index.php?cat=50 be warned that they have promo photos for every coming episode.

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Awwwwwww . I thought that is just lovely, nice to see both Keller and Rodney happy.

[Allan]

Yeah, I think the writers would have a problem on their hands if it wasn't for Jewel's introduction. (Thoughts in spoiler tags for Beck's consideration).

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Weir was never particularly interesting, and Torri Higginson leaving didn't help matters. Teyla became more and more boring, especially because of Rachel Luttrel's pregnancy. Sam joining the show was great, and then she had to be written out because of Amanda Tapping's new show.

While in some cases they're not the greatest characters, I think the writers and producers have been stuffed around a bit and things were a little out of their control.[/spoiler]

Thanks for the link Nico. I can see the thumbnails, but the full size versions aren't loading at the moment, though. I've bookmrked them.

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That is great. It's nice to see that they do get together by the end of the series.

EDIT - No SGA this week! At least it should be the last break, and we get the rest of the season on a weekly basis.

[Allan]

I finished season 7 of SG-1 tonight and thought the season was great, despite there being two clip shows!

"Lost City" was by far the best finale in a while, especially after seasons five and six's were so anticlimactic. It's also cool to see them so close to discovering Atlantis (and thank god they replaced the actress playing Weir in SG-1 with Torri Higginson).

And I have to say that the "Heroes" episodes are probably my favourite SG-1 ones so far. Something a little different, that had real heart by the end of it.

And rather than casting a new Colonel in the show, why not give us Adam Baldwin as Colonel Dave Dixon from "Heroes"? All us Firefly fans know how awesome he is, and he was damn amusing in those episodes. Besides, a Colonel stranded in space, away from his wife four kids would give us something to feel sorry for him about.

[Beck]

I don't like Weir much. She's bland imo. Teyla is ok, but no where near as interesting as the other members of Sheppards team or SG-1.

[Allan]

Weir is very bland, sadly. Where are you up to now, Beck?

And I remember you telling me that a couple of the season 9 episodes got jumbled on the DVD. Which ones were they again?

[Beck]

Pfft you think I can remember that now? We've watched the first couple of season 3 and having a break from it atm. Dont want to run out of eps just yet

[Nico]

Okay well two weeks have come and gone and brought 2 episodes with them!.

Last weeks episode

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Was kind of dissapointed, I didnt like that the entire thing turned out to be fake, How many times have we seen this storyline!, I was shocked when Sheppard lost his hand and figured it could be easily reattached he would be fine. Even Koyla was fake, aww man I was hugely dissapointed.

The week before

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I didnt mind this episode, again not as good as I was expecting but damn Teylas baby is so adorable, it was nice to actually see them together and to see Michael again but is it just me or has Michael become a complete moron, he lost everything that made him such a great foe. I did however enjoy another great effect when the Event Horizon swallowed the back end of the puddle jumper, that was a simple, brilliant solution to there problem and we rarely ever see that!.

[Allan]

Nov 10, 2008 11:54:46 GMT 10 Beck said:

We've watched the first couple of season 3 and having a break from it atm. Dont want to run out of eps just yet

Fair enough. I can lend you guys season four, though.

I haven't seen this week's episode yet, but I did see an interesting comment about the episode, which makes for a pleasant spoiler:

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rodney and jennifer up a tree K.I.S.S.I.N.G.

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Kolya being fake disappointed me, especially after last week's episode - kind of got gypped twice with the "big" returns of an old enemy. But aside from that and the "oh shit" moment with Sheppard's hand being cut off being fake, I did enjoy it. It's stuff we've seen before, but I thought the episode made a nice point.

And, it was good to finally have an Aussie on Atlantis, even if she was fake. It was another cool showcase for Woolsey, though.

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I didn't like it quite as much as the next episode. Telya's baby was cute, and it was nice to have them acknowledge she's a mother and not make her annoying in the process, which was cool. I didn't think Michael was a moron, but he was definitely underwhelming.

It's funny you should mention the event horizon, Nico. I was hoping for that the entire episode when I saw it's placement. I kept thinking that if they'd just use the Stargate to destroy the Puddle Jumper, the problem would be solved!

I'm about a quarter of the way through season 9 of SG-1 now. So far I'm enjoying it; the Ori are a cool threat, and it's nice to see what's happening with the Jaffa now that they're free.

Season 8 was completely underwhelming, though. It had a couple of cool episodes here and there, but as a whole, the season just didn't click for me.

And Gateworld has a couple of interesting articles about SGU:

Stargate Universe pre-production update!

Friday - November 21, 2008 | by Darren Sumner



The third Stargate series marches rapidly toward its February shooting date, and pre-production is moving along at a rapid pace. Writer-producer Joseph Mallozzi has been updating fans on the show's progress this month at his blog.

"Brad and Rob did a terrific job of kicking things off in thrilling fashion," Mallozzi said of the premiere episode's script. "The script is fast-paced and fun; its characters unique and engaging. My favorite: Dr. David Rush. Oh, he's going to be a handful. Originally planned as a two-parter, Brad and Robert quickly discovered that there was simply too much story for such a tight frame, so the series opener is now looking like a three-parter."

The complete writing staff from Stargate Atlantis is back to kick off the new series, including showrunners Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper, plus Carl Binder, Martin Gero, Alan McCullough, Paul Mullie, and Mallozzi himself. (While Wright previously expressed an interest in bringing in new writers, there is no news yet on whether that will happen.)

Stories for the rest of Season One are being spun in the writer's room at The Bridge Studios. "Brad has laid claim to #4, a story that is right up his alley," Mallozzi continued. "Speaking of perfect pairings, I couldn't think of anyone better than Carl Binder to write #5. Rob is eyeing #6 which offers a most intriguingly SF door in, while #7 and #8 have yet to be claimed."

Martin Gero's first script "involved a long, long discussion on the workings of a certain technology which forms the impetus to another terrific character-driven story."

The team has left episode nine temporarily on the shelf to discuss episodes 10 and 11, which would typically be a mid-season two-parter for a Stargate series. But "I hesitate to call it a two-parter because, the way these episodes have developed so far, there are a threads that run through all the stories, in essence making this season one big 20-parter," Mallozzi said.

Mallozzi will write episode 10, and Mullie number 11. The producer teased: "Ticking clocks, twists and turns, alliances, betrayals, and a surprise guest!"

Set on board an Ancient vessel called the Destiny, Universe follows Colonel Everett Young and a team of young and largely untested men and women. Stargate Universe will be more of a character-based show with more deliberate story arcs, as opposed to the more stand-alone, action-based nature of Atlantis and even SG-1.

But many fans are nervous about the new series and its apparent differences from what has made Stargate what it is over the past 12 years. Others, however, believe that this sort of change is just what the franchise needs in order to be reenergized.

"Stargate Universe is a series that draws on established mythology yet blazes a bold, new path for the franchise," Mallozzi told fans. "It's definitely more character-centered and intimate in its exploration of the interpersonal dynamics that will drive a lot of the shipboard developments (and, no, I'm not talking about romance). The premise of this ship hurtling through uncharted territories offers up unbounded story possibilities, yet also forces us to adopt a very different approach toward alien encounters and planetary investigation. Twin themes mentioned over the course of today's conversations: survival and sacrifice."

"The premise of SGU is ... more intimate -- a limited group of people trapped aboard a space ship hurtling through distant space -- and therefore necessitates a more intimate form of storytelling."

Mallozzi also said that the design of the Destiny is close to being decided. There is also a new Universe version of the M.A.L.P. probe in the works.

Read more from Joseph Mallozzi now at his blog, and head over to GateWorld's Stargate Universe Launch Center for more on the show. The series is expected to premiere in the U.S. next July.

Cooper: Universe team is identifiable

Thursday - November 6, 2008 | by Darren Sumner



The characters who make up Stargate Universe's team will be unqualified, imperfect, and imminently relatable, according to series co-creator Robert C. Cooper. Cooper talks about the characters and the show's pre-production progress in a new interview at MGM's official Stargate site, Stargate.MGM.com.

"One of the things I'm really excited about is that we're looking for people who are a little more identifiable and contemporary," Cooper told the site. "I always thought one of the things that was attractive about the original series was the 'everyman on the street' point of view that O'Neill had to science fiction. It made the characters identifiable. They were more like we would be in a science fiction situation, and how we would react. And that's what we're trying to do with the new show -- create characters that are going to be challenged by the situation."

The Stargate franchise has always sought to tell stories with present-day, relatable characters going on incredible adventures. But the third series will emphasize that more than its predecessors, putting younger and less experienced men and women into the field.

The team includes a number of unlikely candidates, including a Senator's daughter (Chloe Carpenter) and young, slacker computer genius (Eli Hitchcock), as well as a group of junior S.G.C. officers (story). Their leader, Colonel Everett Young, is an experienced officer in his 40s -- but the rest of the team is still wet behind the ears.

And there's a good reason for that, Cooper hints.

"The team that ends up on the ship is not really who was supposed to go, and in some cases they're very unprepared and unqualified to be in that situation," he said. "So they don't have all the answers as quickly, and the challenges are greater than they would be for people who have seen it all and don't have as far to go as characters when they encounter an incredible situation."

It's certainly a far cry from the world's leading minds sent to the Pegasus Galaxy in the premiere of Stargate Atlantis.

Stargate Universe will begin filming in February, and Cooper said that the target is for a July 2009 premiere on the SCI FI Channel in the United States. Read the full story now at Stargate.MGM.com, and learn much more about the new show and its characters at GateWorld's Stargate Universe Launch Center!

[Allan]

So I finally saw this week's episode, and:

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If it didn't have Rodney and Jennifer's relationship as its heart, it would have been pretty crap. But it does get points for Bill Nye, the Science Guy's role (as himself). It had some decent moments throughout it, and some funny lines, but so close to the end of the series, "nothing" episodes kind of bug me.

But Rodney and Jennifer finally going on their first date and hooking up was great. And they joined the mile high club!

Aside from that, have you noticed the habit this season of telling stories with just a couple of the characters? It's an interesting way of doing things; I wonder what the reasoning is.

[Beck]

They killed off Carson

[Nico]

Sunday was such a sad episode, brought tears to my eyes .

Looking forward to the last ever episode tonight.