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Post by Loz on May 31, 2008 19:19:48 GMT 10
I wouldn't be putting money it. And Joss and co get can still get it wrong sometimes. Someone cast Sarah Thompson as Eve in Angel after all.
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Post by Allan on May 31, 2008 21:46:19 GMT 10
Oh, everyone can get casting wrong. But I liked Sarah Thompson as Eve, personally. Slightly annoying, but I thought it worked for the character.
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Post by shred on Jun 3, 2008 17:13:03 GMT 10
I don't think he casted wrongly for Eve. He just created a bad character.
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Post by shred on Jun 7, 2008 16:12:25 GMT 10
Some Dollhouse spoilers from whedon.info. Pretty interesting. “I’m actually curious about the Dollhouse as far as who runs it. Is it a private organization ? If so, how in the heck is any of this legal ?”
It is a private organization, but a secret one. Federal Agent Paul Ballard (Tahmoh Penikett) is heading the investigation into “Dollhouse,” but pretty much everyone else considers it a myth.
KEENE : It’s a myth, okay ? It’s an urban legend : young people having their personalities replaced so they can be the perfect date, it’s alligators in the sewers !
“Is this the near future ? (Kind of like Dark Angel ?)”
No specific date is mentioned, but it does appear to be near future or perhaps even present day. With the obvious exception of the Dollhouse itself, there are no technological advances that are apparent.
“So, the Dolls willingly gave up five years of their lives…but how long have they already been dolls ?”
This question is not answered in the pilot, but here is what we do know : the Dollhouse has been long enough to have a doll, referred to as Alpha, go mad. It has been long enough that they recognize Echo’s recent interactions with the other dolls as “out of the norm.”
This question was posed in the discussion at Whedonesque : “what if not all the dolls are volunteers ?”
Ah, yes, this is clearly something that the series will explore.
BOYD : Dr. Saunder’s is working the radical theory that those people are still people.
TOPHER : People who volunteered for this.
BOYD : Or so we’re told…
TOPHER : You’re not allowed to have conspiracy theories when you’re in the employ of the conspiracy. These folks elected to give up five years of their lives, after which they will be blissfully ignorant and very wealthy.
BOYD : What about during ? What about the things you program them to do ? Even if they did sign up, they didn’t know what they were signing up for.
Another interesting question : since their minds are clearly wiped of the memory of having made the deal in the first place, what reason does the Dollhouse have to abide by the 5-year rule if their Actives have no idea how much time has passed and no memory of the deal they made ? Is there some way the Actives have to ensure this ? Perhaps someone on the outside who know what’s going on and can call the Dollhouse on it after the five years have passed ?
We’ll leave you with a quote from Topher, who is not an Active :
TOPHER : Nonsense. We walk the wire, Friend-man. We live in the Dollhouse. Which makes us dolls, and the people playing with us, little children. Children break their toys, Boyd[/spolier]
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Post by Allan on Jun 7, 2008 22:02:15 GMT 10
That is interesting, Irene. I'm liking some of the concepts it looks to be exploring.
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Post by Forsaken on Jun 10, 2008 19:46:47 GMT 10
Well, as much as I'm looking forward to a new Joss show and I have complete faith that it will do well (that's not a pun by the way) however I'm making an effort to note over hype it for myself because if you build it up for months and months in your head it's gonna be hard not to be disappointed.
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Post by Bre on Sept 15, 2008 7:06:40 GMT 10
There has been some nastiness surrounding Dollhouse. They had to halt shooting because of creative differences for a while. Anyway, it doesn't sound like this show is going to last. It will still air as planned, but if there is already major script problems this early in production, well let's just say I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't last.
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Post by Allan on Sept 17, 2008 22:23:26 GMT 10
I read Joss' statement about it a little while, and he's maintaining the changes to the pilot were his doing because he wasn't happy with it. Apparently it ended up a bit darker than he wanted. Who knows if Fox had anything (or, more likely how much they did have) to do with it.
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Post by shred on Sept 29, 2008 18:12:18 GMT 10
When I read that, I have this feeling that this show isn't going to last long.
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Post by shred on Nov 6, 2008 12:34:04 GMT 10
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Post by Beck on Nov 7, 2008 16:13:56 GMT 10
When is it being released? Do we know if its airing in Aus?
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Post by shred on Nov 7, 2008 16:26:25 GMT 10
It's airing in Jan 09 I think.
I think it's coming to NZ as I saw a preview of it in TV Guide a few weeks ago so it should hit Aus as well.
EDIT: Just checked the airdate - Fed 13th 09 (Friday the 13th too).
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Post by Allan on Nov 7, 2008 21:41:18 GMT 10
When is it being released? Do we know if its airing in Aus? I'd imagine (and hope) it would air here in Aus at some point at the very least. And the first episode titles are apparently: Unaired Pilot: "Echo" Episode 1: "Ghost" Episode 2: "Gray Hour" Episode 3: "The Target" Episode 4: "Stage Fright" Episode 5: "Man on the Street" Episode 6: "True Believer"
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Post by RebeccaR on Nov 8, 2008 8:50:05 GMT 10
I hope we get it here in Aus. I hate hearing about good shows and missing out. And I hope it turns out to be good, and not be axed like some many other shows. BTW I remember seeing ads for a show called Reaper a while back, did that ever happen? (sorry to go off topic again)
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Post by shred on Nov 8, 2008 9:25:25 GMT 10
I think it did. I remember reading it that it was airing. But I think it got cancelled after a handful of episodes. I'm not sure.
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Post by Allan on Nov 8, 2008 17:15:05 GMT 10
I didn't think Reaper ended up airing here. I thought they ended up pushing it back to the latter part of the ratings season here, but I haven't seen it yet.
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Post by shred on Nov 11, 2008 16:52:31 GMT 10
I'm confused. Some reports say that it will be airing on Jan 13th instead of Feb. Doubt it's going to be Jan as there's not Friday the 13th.
Anyway, there are also reports saying that this show is already doomed because it's on a Friday slot. Apparently, FOX puts shows that they don't have faith in on Friday.
Firefly aired on a Friday.
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Post by Allan on Nov 11, 2008 17:52:52 GMT 10
I've read a couple of articles about the Friday thing. It's being slotted with Sarah Connor, apparently in the hopes that they can help each others' ratings.
And the Friday slot doesn't always mean doomed - that's where they launched The X-Files, and we all know how big that became.
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Post by shred on Nov 11, 2008 19:20:24 GMT 10
Hmm I don't know. From what I've read of the show, it doesn't sound like it's going to be big, much less as big as X-Files. Honestly, I'm not all that excited about this show.
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Post by Allan on Nov 11, 2008 22:04:47 GMT 10
Oh, I don't think it'll be as big as The X-Files. I just meant that the timeslot is an automatic indication that the show won't be successful.
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